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D_TK
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forklifting 5xxx appliances -> 9100 UPPAK observations

Over the past few weeks i have forklifted (4) 5xxx clusters to 9100.  Spoiler alert - UPPAK has been disabled everywhere.

All 9100s have nothing special added to the order, just a LOM card, no interface bonding, no vlans.  All were installed with R81.20 with the latest recommended hotfix.

First cluster was a 5600 forklift.  This one has the most active connections (typically between 35,000 - 50,000 during the day) but the the bandwidth usage isn't anything exorbitant.  No issues with connectivity after the upgrade, but i noticed that TX-DRP were increasing at an alarming rate - a few hundred thousand per day.  On the 5600 cluster, netstat counters always remained pretty clean.  I found this checkmates thread, reverted to KPPAK and after a week, netstat counters are back to being clean - no other change but UPPAK -> KPPAK: https://community.checkpoint.com/t5/Security-Gateways/Packet-timeout-with-unknown-reason-in-Quantum-...

 

Second cluster was another 5600.  This is by far our largest location from a bandwidth usage perspective.  All of our sites are configured in a single vpn community and all locations are physical appliances except one cloudguard instance in azure.  When this site was forklifted to a 9100, all tunnels came up except the one to azure.  Tried all the normal vpn troubleshooting steps, nothing, nada, tunnel to azure remained down.  I then found this phoneboy podcast with tim hall which mentioned there could be weird vpn behavior with UPPAK - reverted to KPPAK and the tunnel came up immediately and no issues since.  For reference, here is the podcast i was referring to: https://community.checkpoint.com/t5/CheckMates-Go-Cyber-Security/S07E03-What-is-UPPAK/ba-p/245115

 

Last two sites are pretty vanilla - not much bandwidth usage, typical connections are around 8K.  No issues noted since forklifting from 5400s.  But considering the issues that i had with the first two sites, i changed both of these clusters to KPPAK after a few weeks.

 

Just wanted to provide my observations, not looking for any troubleshooting ideas as i won't be putting any of these sites back on UPPAK on R81.20.  WIll see what happens when we upgrade to either r82 or r82.10.

 

 

 

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