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dnitsky
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Anyone have experience with the 'zScaler Services' Updatable Object - R81

We're running R81, and I'm looking to start using the 'Updatable Objects' - particularly the one marked 'Zscaler Services'. 

Looking for the below:

  • I assume these 'updatable objects' perform similarly to what's called 'ISDB Objects' in FortiGates. 
  • Do these perform well on CheckPoints?
  • Does anyone know if this 'Zscaler Services' object includes both ZIA and ZPA? 
    • There are no published lists I can see to confirm this, just a link to the public Service Info page. 
  • How often are these updated by CheckPoint, or do they generally point to a public JSON/XML to update? 

 

Thanks in Advance!

Dan

 

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PhoneBoy
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They are not polled from the management server, they are pulled directly from the gateways once an hour, I believe.
For how Domain Objects work, see: https://support.checkpoint.com/results/sk/sk90401 

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PhoneBoy
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We list sources for some applications here: https://support.checkpoint.com/results/sk/sk131852 
zScaler is specifically listed, and I assume we are pulling the full JSON file they provide: https://config.zscaler.com/api/zscaler.net/cenr/json 

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PhoneBoy
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All of our Updatable Objects are updated based on vendor-provided JSON/XML.
You should be able to see what's in them: https://community.checkpoint.com/t5/Security-Gateways/AWS-Updateable-Objects/m-p/99010 
Or with: https://support.checkpoint.com/results/sk/sk161632 

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dnitsky
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Thanks @PhoneBoy!

Couple follow up questions:

How often are the Vendor JSONs polled/updated by the management server?

 

Also a quick question while I have you (as I figure it's semi-related):

When using the Domain object (eg. www.checkpoint.com) in a destination, are those resolved IP's cached for some time before being re-polled, or does a resolution happen each time the policy is passed? I'm finding conflicting answers to this. 

Thanks again!

 

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PhoneBoy
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They are not polled from the management server, they are pulled directly from the gateways once an hour, I believe.
For how Domain Objects work, see: https://support.checkpoint.com/results/sk/sk90401 

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dnitsky
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Interesting - so each gateway which needs to reference a Updatable Object needs to DNS/Internet or Proxy capability?
I'm quite surprised it's not done from the management server. 

Thanks for the SK, will read up on that. 

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Vincent_Bacher
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Is there a way to see the URL where the vendor provided json is downloaded from? Then the question of thread opener could be answered.

@dnitskyI guess, ZIA and ZPA are both included as ZEN are used for both. I assume that all necessary targets should be achievable when used in a policy.

and now to something completely different - CCVS, CCAS, CCTE, CCCS, CCSM elite
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PhoneBoy
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We list sources for some applications here: https://support.checkpoint.com/results/sk/sk131852 
zScaler is specifically listed, and I assume we are pulling the full JSON file they provide: https://config.zscaler.com/api/zscaler.net/cenr/json 

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