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Hi All,
What will happen after the support contract for both the Security Gateway and the Management Server expires?
I understand that the Firewall and SMS blades show “Never”, but if I do not renew the support contract, can the gateway and management still be upgraded?
For example, can I upgrade from R81.20 to R82 without an active support subscription?
Thanks.
You won't be able to download the necessary files or complete the process via CPUSE no.
CPUSE in Web UI will warn / alert you if there is no valid entitlement - examples:
sk109224: "CPUSE requires a valid license for download and updates" error when establishing connecti...
sk103433: "CPUSE requires a valid license for downloads and updates" message in Gaia Portal
The EULA and Support Plans page otherwise outline the provision of upgrades / hotfixes.
https://www.checkpoint.com/support-services/support-plans/
You won't be able to download the necessary files or complete the process via CPUSE no.
Hi
Do you know if there is any official documentation that states this behavior?
For example, a document that explicitly says OS upgrades (via CPUSE) require a valid Software Subscription or Support contract?
Thank you.
Hi,
don't know about an official document. But.
When trying to download and install upgrade packages via CPUSE: it will not show or download new releases or jumbo HFAs. (I haven't tried it, but the statement should be correct.)
However, an offline upgrade is still technically possible.
If your User Center account still has download entitlement through other devices with valid subscription, you can manually download the upgrade packages (e.g. R82), upload them to the appliance, and install them via CPUSE offline mode. The appliance itself does not block the upgrade based on its own contract status.
Whether this places you in a licensing or support grey area — or even outside what is officially permitted — I can’t say. My explanation was purely from a technical perspective.
CPUSE in Web UI will warn / alert you if there is no valid entitlement - examples:
sk109224: "CPUSE requires a valid license for download and updates" error when establishing connecti...
sk103433: "CPUSE requires a valid license for downloads and updates" message in Gaia Portal
The EULA and Support Plans page otherwise outline the provision of upgrades / hotfixes.
https://www.checkpoint.com/support-services/support-plans/
What @Chris_Atkinson sent is an official documentation.
From a legal point of view you are not allowed to upgrade/update.
In my experience you can do it manually but if it breaks you are allowed to keep all the pieces but don't expect Check Point to put it back together again.
Without a software subscription, you lose access to the upgrade binaries and images and will not be able to upgrade.
For context, though Im sure @Don_Paterson will find some flaws in this AI answer (rightfully so), but there are some good points in there.
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defaultFilter and blocks all traffic. [community....kpoint.com], [community....kpoint.com]Functionally:
Compliance & support considerations:
cplic print -x (shows license/contract status) and review contract warnings during policy install. [community....kpoint.com]*********************
The answers are:
Technically, Yes and Yes, but it's against the EULA, and the upgrade packages could be blocked from download.
Don't go there.
Now, on to the AI ...stuff.... 🙃
Flaws:
What a lof of noise.
TL;DR... Noisy mess.
defaultFilter- No - wrong - InitialPolicy is what is a applied when a licence expires on an SG and it is rebooted (or cpstop ; cpstart). Get out of jail - 30 day eval license, but this is adding to the excessive noise now.
What a lof of noise.
Valid, but R81 reference. Meaning that is valid for customers upgrading to R81.
What a lof of noise.
What a lof of noise.
What a lof of noise.
Added value:
Customers can be asked to cover the period that the support contract was expired. Meaning that the gap between the Support contract being expiry date and the renewal date will be added to the quote for renewal. It's all in the fine print.
Maybe not the best comparison, but its like in the old days when people would get mad if something with computer would not work...well, computers only know 0 and 1, thats it lol
Kind of like AI, it only gives when can find online...hopefully LLM will make it better, lets see 🙂
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