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Scott_Paisley
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Stanby Manager resets to active

I failed over management servers yesterday. I failed back to the server we normally use as Active, and now the standby keeps resetting itself to active so I have a clash

I have a ticket open, but has anybody else seen this?

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Scott_Paisley
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Here is the TAC solution. Trying it now.

Solution

  1. Run the cpstop command.
     
  2. To find out the current status, run:

    # cpprod_util FwIsActiveManagement

    0 - means Standby.
    1 - means Active.
     
  3. To set the Management station to Standby status, run:

    # cpprod_util FwSetActiveManagement 0

     
  4. To set the Management station to Active status, run:

    # cpprod_util FwSetActiveManagement 1
     
  5. Run the cpstart command.

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Timothy_Hall
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An SMS in a Management HA setup should never set itself active without human intervention.  Are you saying that you started with the Primary in active and Secondary in standby, then you set Secondary active (and Primary went standby), then you set Primary back to active (and Secondary went standby), and now you are saying the Secondary went active again on its own?  Are you seeing a state of "Advanced" or "Collision"?

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Scott_Paisley
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I am seeing collision.

Due to an earlier issue, we normally run our Secondary as the Active, and our Primary as the Backup, and all is fine.

I made the primary active yesterday, then made the secondary active again. I can set the primary as standby and do a full sunc, then a few minutes later I get the error that says both are active

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Timothy_Hall
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If you are in a collision state you must force a manual sync to get back into the usual active/standby.  Because both SMSs have changes, you need to pick a "winner" and a "loser".  The winner syncs over top of the loser; any changes on the loser are lost except I think for SIC certificate changes/revocations which are merged.  Would be a great idea to take backups of both SMSs first just in case you overwrite the "wrong" changes that you actually needed, as a manual sync cannot be undone.

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Scott_Paisley
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A manual sync does not resolve the problem.

It shows a successful sync, then some minutes later back to collision.

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Timothy_Hall
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Yep, that would be a TAC case then.

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Scott_Paisley
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Here is the TAC solution. Trying it now.

Solution

  1. Run the cpstop command.
     
  2. To find out the current status, run:

    # cpprod_util FwIsActiveManagement

    0 - means Standby.
    1 - means Active.
     
  3. To set the Management station to Standby status, run:

    # cpprod_util FwSetActiveManagement 0

     
  4. To set the Management station to Active status, run:

    # cpprod_util FwSetActiveManagement 1
     
  5. Run the cpstart command.
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the_rock
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I could be wrong when I say this, as I had not set and played with mgmt HA in some time, but I dont believe there is a preempt option in dashboard like you can set for gateways where one member can always act as master even when it comes back after reboot. I think that for mgmt HA, you have to do that manually if you want to fail them over. Now, from what you described, that sort of behaviour does not sound normal to me. Are there any logs you can see either in dashboard or command line? Maybe messages file, any core dumps?

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Scott_Paisley
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Yeah, I did a manual failover, and a manual failback, but the failback didn't 'stick' on one of the boxes. Trying the TAC fix now.

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the_rock
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Ok, great, let us know if that works. I think I seen that procedure before, I believe there is an sk for that. Hope it goes well.

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genisis__
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It does sound odd.  The real question is what's triggered this behaviour ie. what's the root cause of the issue.

Silly question but what values are returned when you run the following on both SMS appliances?

cprod_util FwIsActiveManagement

Primary Should = 1

Secondary Should = 0

 

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Scott_Paisley
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Both devices returned 1, which explains the problem.

Since I set the standby to zero, it appears to be working.

What is interesting is that it didn't work from the GUI

the_rock
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Yes, thats very odd indeed. Let us know if they ever find a reason why it happened, I would be curious to know.

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