topic Re: When will R80.30 GA be available? in General Topics

When will R80.30 GA be available?

HeikoAnkenbrand — Wed, 20 Mar 2019 21:17:52 GMT

When will R80.30 GA be available?

Is there a release date here yet?

Regards

Heiko

Re: When will R80.30 GA be available?

Danny — Wed, 30 Jan 2019 08:15:17 GMT

Probably right at or shortly after CPX 2019 in Vienna.

Re: When will R80.30 GA be available?

Martin_Valenta — Wed, 30 Jan 2019 10:33:47 GMT

Isn't it too fast? R80.20 GA is not fully available, on places like 3.10 on Openservers/Appliances..

Re: When will R80.30 GA be available?

HeikoAnkenbrand — Wed, 30 Jan 2019 10:39:47 GMT

I hope at the CPX 2019 in Vienna.

Re: When will R80.30 GA be available?

HeikoAnkenbrand — Wed, 30 Jan 2019 10:55:55 GMT

Even if the version R80.20 is officially recommended, I would like to use it with the customer. Many customers don't see through the versions anymore.

I explain to all customers the versions and the Linux kernel versions and file systems and and and.

Management: R80.20.m1 > R80.20 > R80.20.m2

Gateway for Open Server:

HP DL 360/380 G9 > R80.20 with 2.60 Kernel and old file system

HP DL 360/380 G10 > R80.20 with 3.10 Kernel and XFS file system

It is a little bit chaos. I would prefer a new version R80.30.

Re: When will R80.30 GA be available?

Danny — Wed, 30 Jan 2019 11:13:04 GMT

R80.30 will be available soon. Only use Management Feature releases for a reason, otherwise stay with the GA and the official vendor recommendation.

Re: When will R80.30 GA be available?

Dorit_Dor — Wed, 30 Jan 2019 13:56:56 GMT

We will release maintrain twice a year and release it in granular way. Initially for those who need it specifically and later make it default.

You can leverage this to quickly use what you need

if you do not need it, you can wait for it to become the default. You will not see it in cpuse initially like we did in r80.20. So in fact until its really it will take time until its widely adopted like happened w r80.20.

As indicated M releases are special management only releases and they will never become default - you can move between M releases or from M to maintrain. Use M releases if you need new functionality that is delivered (or wat for the main train and use it there).

The goal is to enable new capabilities fast targetting the audiance that need it.

Re: When will R80.30 GA be available?

HeikoAnkenbrand — Wed, 30 Jan 2019 15:55:14 GMT

THX Dorit for this information.

Now to my main question.

When will R80.30 GA (management + gateways) be available?

Re: When will R80.30 GA be available?

Dorit_Dor — Wed, 30 Jan 2019 16:18:51 GMT

This quarter

Bring more EAs and we will release faster

Re: When will R80.30 GA be available?

RickHoppe — Wed, 30 Jan 2019 17:59:08 GMT

I’ve missed the R80.30 Public EA in this discussion. Will that be skipped if you plan to release the GA in Q1?

Re: When will R80.30 GA be available?

Dorit_Dor — Wed, 30 Jan 2019 18:15:22 GMT

With short project, we dont have time for significant public ea so right now its mostly private ea ... we may still have public ea for sort while before release but if you want to join the ea, please join the private ea today

Re: When will R80.30 GA be available?

RickHoppe — Wed, 30 Jan 2019 18:20:13 GMT

Currently I don’t have production customers willing to participate to the private EA. With the public EA it would be easier for them, and us engineers, to participate and test it before the GA will be installed on production environments.

Re: When will R80.30 GA be available?

Kim_Moberg — Wed, 30 Jan 2019 18:34:44 GMT

Sad. I have only have had possitive experience. Great EA team and fast R&D guys working hard to solve issues if they occur.

I can strongly recommend it.

Best regards

Kim

Re: When will R80.30 GA be available?

Martin_Valenta — Wed, 30 Jan 2019 18:44:31 GMT

How many EA is running on big environments? Like 12 domains on MDS/MLM which manage around 300+ gateways. I would guess that it’s mainly running on smaller setups.

Re: When will R80.30 GA be available?

RickHoppe — Wed, 30 Jan 2019 18:47:17 GMT

That’s great. I do believe the potential it has with being directly in touch with R&D but most customers do see risks.

Re: When will R80.30 GA be available?

Kim_Moberg — Wed, 30 Jan 2019 18:53:22 GMT

Good questions

EA team emulate your setup even before they come and install EA version.

Using EA team using their eacollect data scripts of SMS and gateways.

You upload data export to their sftp server and then the Technician starts restoring and replicating your setup.

In that way they are preparing and asking questions to understand your network.

When they arrive they have gameplan for the EA.

This works for us.

Best regards

Kim

Re: When will R80.30 GA be available?

Kim_Moberg — Wed, 30 Jan 2019 19:19:31 GMT

I understand. Been participating in EA program the last 5 years. Good experience and very competent techies. Kudos to Alexandra Gofman and Alexander Sazonov and Pavel Levitan

I think the problem is the customee being told it is early and running bleading edge technology which is true but full attention from EA team and R&D.

I am running R80.20 AC now and the first time we installed the CPU usage went high. Then we did fail-back to local (firewall host) and it normalized and waited to the next EA halo take to be installed.

Now running a stable version.

Customers will experience a strong relationship with the EA team and the more they involve themselves in the process the closer they are with check point. This is what we want.

They also get new features and technologies that is being developed and test it into production.

If it does go wrong with the upgrade they can also cancel the upgrade and go back to normal production. This never happens to me.

Customers needs to be involved and cannot just rely on check point partners taking care of the installation and communication. It is been check point customer and check point directly. Thats how I see it.

If you need any reference please dont hesitate to contact me.

Kim

Re: When will R80.30 GA be available?

Kim_Moberg — Wed, 30 Jan 2019 19:29:46 GMT

I do think Check Point has EA Program for MDS/MLM. Have you asked them?

Kim

Re: When will R80.30 GA be available?

RickHoppe — Wed, 30 Jan 2019 19:36:38 GMT

Thanks for sharing your experiences with production EA. It is valuable PR for production EA’s that I miss. Perhaps Check Point can share more customer experiences when announcing EA’s to get more customers involved.

Re: When will R80.30 GA be available?

Kim_Moberg — Wed, 30 Jan 2019 19:52:41 GMT

Yeah we need more user experience in th EA program in production.

Have you read this publication written by Niels Poulsen which by the way also a good friend of me?

He is explaining the EA program in production environment from a Security Engineer point of view. Inspirational I think.

https://community.checkpoint.com/people/9ab1752a-c2b8-463d-b0d8-1cb5d8f2e500/blog/2017/11/23/do-you-know-the-check-point-early-availability-program

Kim