topic Re: ChatGPT on CheckMates? in General Topics

ChatGPT on CheckMates?

_Val_ — Thu, 26 Jan 2023 12:32:19 GMT

We are currently looking into the possibility of "inviting" ChatGPT into the CheckMates community. While this idea is still in discussion, and there will be some time before we can make it happen, I played with the technology a bit.

Here are some results, and they are not bad at all:

VAL: How do I check status of Check Point gateway cluster?

ChatGPT: To check the status of a Check Point gateway cluster, you can use the "cphaprob stat" command in the command line interface (CLI) of the management server. This command will display the current state of each cluster member, as well as information about the cluster's virtual IP address and sync status.
You can also use the SmartConsole GUI to check the status of the cluster by navigating to the cluster object and viewing the "General Properties" or "Cluster Members" tabs.

Additionally, you can check the status of the cluster by using the Check Point API with the command "cphaprob list" and get the cluster member state.

VAL: I have installed "Any Any accept" policy on my Check Point security gateway. but I cannot ping it. How should I troubleshoot the issue?

ChatGPT: If you have installed an "Any Any accept" policy on your Check Point security gateway but are unable to ping it, there are several steps you can take to troubleshoot the issue:

Verify that the security gateway is properly configured and reachable. You can do this by checking the gateway's IP address and connectivity, and by testing connectivity to the gateway from the management server or another host on the network.

Verify that the "Any Any accept" policy is properly configured and installed on the security gateway. Make sure that the rule is in the correct position in the rulebase and that it is not being overridden by a more restrictive rule.

Check the gateway's firewall log to see if there are any dropped packets or denied connections that may be related to the issue.

Check the gateway's routing table to ensure that the gateway is properly configured to forward traffic to the correct destination.

Ensure that the security gateway is configured to allow ICMP traffic through. By default, the "Any Any accept" policy does not allow ICMP traffic, you need to add explicit rule for ICMP traffic.

Check if there are any other security measures like Network Address Translation (NAT) or VPN that could be blocking the ICMP traffic.

If all the above steps have been tried, you can also try to reboot the gateway and see if that resolves the issue.

By following these steps, you should be able to identify and resolve the issue that is preventing you from pinging the security gateway.

And here is my favorite:

VAL: create a sonnet about Check Point firewalls and stateful inspection

ChatGPT:
Oh Check Point firewalls, with stateful inspection,
Thou art the gatekeepers of the network domain,
Thy packets doth inspect with precision,
And only those that pass thy validation
Shall enter into the sanctity of our system.

Thy stateful nature doth remember
All communication, both in and out,
And with thy rules doth thee govern,
To keep the network free from doubt.

Thy protection doth not falter,
For thy threat prevention doth never sleep,
But vigilant doth thee remain,
Against the malicious who would creep.

Oh Check Point firewalls, with stateful inspection,
Thou art the guardian of our cyber perfection.

What do you think, folk? It seems, this tech could help us get answers faster, and also have some fun in the process. Let us know in the comments.

Re: ChatGPT on CheckMates?

G_W_Albrecht — Thu, 26 Jan 2023 10:54:23 GMT

I see a problem in the hallucinated points showing up. If you get a mixed up step order or wrong parameters it could be a disaster. Also, all knowledge is from and from before 2021 only.

For help i have to be sure that i receive reliable information, so i will ask e.g. TAC that i trust a lot, CP documentation and experiences of fellow CheckMates. ChatGPT would be a funny oddball here, but not more - as it can not be trusted...

Re: ChatGPT on CheckMates?

_Val_ — Thu, 26 Jan 2023 12:33:21 GMT

I think you get it backward actually. All knowledge is after 2021 if I understand it correctly.

Re: ChatGPT on CheckMates?

_Val_ — Thu, 26 Jan 2023 12:54:55 GMT

One more thing from AI, a limerick this time:

There once was a network unsecured
Where hackers felt their skills were matured
But with strong passwords and firewalls high
They could no longer breach and spy
And the company's assets were secured

Re: ChatGPT on CheckMates?

G_W_Albrecht — Thu, 26 Jan 2023 14:33:43 GMT

No - only history up to end of 2021, that is the main reason for the ChatGPT wikipedia errors, blind for all after that date. If all knowledge is from after 2021 it could not do a sonnet...

Re: ChatGPT on CheckMates?

Bob_Zimmerman — Thu, 26 Jan 2023 15:41:06 GMT

The problem is ChatGPT gets technical stuff hilariously wrong. And it sounds 100% confident while doing it. For a fun example, ask it what LAST_ACK is. More often than not, it gives a response claiming the wrong end initiated a connection close, and the wrong end is waiting for the other to acknowledge.

A bunch of programming forums have been inundated with people talking about how amazing it is and how the people posting are using it to write their code for them. Unfortunately, it also routinely gets extremely basic stuff like arithmetic catastrophically wrong:

What is 3 + 5 again? Pretty sure it isn't 6.

Re: ChatGPT on CheckMates?

G_W_Albrecht — Thu, 26 Jan 2023 15:58:55 GMT

I have read a long german article about explaining Wolf, Sheep and Cabbage to ChatGPT - it will always give a wrong answer no matter how often the solution is explained...

Re: ChatGPT on CheckMates?

G_W_Albrecht — Mon, 30 Jan 2023 17:12:50 GMT

German scientists summed up the drawbacks well:

1. references/sources are often missing or wrong

2. you can not trust it (as it will make things up for you and present it as fact)

3. it is impossible to check if the output is fact or fiction if you do not know it already

Re: ChatGPT on CheckMates?

Bogdan_11 — Mon, 30 Jan 2023 15:11:46 GMT

Hehe, I remember when I was kid our teacher explained it to us and few of us were able to solve it. I heard this chat and other AI, are like similar to a 4-5 years old child. wondering how long will it take until these apps will replace humans jobs entirely...

Re: ChatGPT on CheckMates?

Hugo_vd_Kooij — Mon, 30 Jan 2023 16:16:13 GMT

For now I would put it in the funny section.

Too many examples of ..... questionable results.

Re: ChatGPT on CheckMates?

Kurtis_Johnson — Mon, 30 Jan 2023 16:30:00 GMT

All the Technical Poets out there will be jobless.

Re: ChatGPT on CheckMates?

the_rock — Mon, 30 Jan 2023 16:55:58 GMT

Well, everyone knows that German people are one of the smartest folks out there, so I think I will trust your scientists. I looked at some examples of this ChatGPT online and personally, just my opinion, I find it ridiculous : -).

Re: ChatGPT on CheckMates?

G_W_Albrecht — Mon, 30 Jan 2023 17:13:51 GMT

I mentioned that they are german as it does not make much sense to give a link...

Re: ChatGPT on CheckMates?

the_rock — Mon, 30 Jan 2023 17:20:47 GMT

I spoke some German back in high school, but not any more : - (. Anyway, regarding ChatGPT, personally, I would not waste second of my time on it.

Re: ChatGPT on CheckMates?

Tony_Graham — Mon, 30 Jan 2023 17:47:35 GMT

While I also am a fan of bleeding edge tech, as has been pointed out, there

is a little bit of peril here (cue Monty Python). However, occasionally we all run

into peril from human sources of information because every little nuance of

any situation may not be considered. So is s chatGPT inherently any worse? Maybe not.

I would recommend that the use of chatGPT be placed in its own section where someone

can 'take it under advisement' that they are in fact working with an AI and clearly mark any

information that comes from AI .I think flagging AI content is important and should be industry standard to prevent

AI from being used for disinformation but that's another topic.

Who knows, maybe chatGPT will become Checkmate of the year on its own merit?

Interesting to watch in any case.

Re: ChatGPT on CheckMates?

the_rock — Mon, 30 Jan 2023 18:14:36 GMT

If ChatGPT ever became Checkmate of the year, I will close my account the same day...mark my words : - )

Re: ChatGPT on CheckMates?

_Val_ — Tue, 31 Jan 2023 08:10:24 GMT

Uhhh, I see some worrisome messages here. It seems some of our experts suddenly feel threatened, lol.

It is a gimmick, folks, and we will treat it as such.

Re: ChatGPT on CheckMates?

_Val_ — Tue, 31 Jan 2023 08:11:25 GMT

You made my day. Not with the way it rhimes now, they will not 🙂

Re: ChatGPT on CheckMates?

_Val_ — Tue, 31 Jan 2023 08:14:54 GMT

We definitely need some more reactions in the community, not just kudos. I just cannot stop laughing.

All you folks are anti-cyber bigots! Let's hope AI does not get any lawyering skills any time soon, because I see a huge, no, HUGE discrimination lawsuit right here, lol.

Re: ChatGPT on CheckMates?

Bob_Zimmerman — Tue, 31 Jan 2023 15:15:46 GMT

Nah. I feel threatened by a Tesla driving near me. 😜

I find ChatGPT a little concerning because people are trusting it way past its point of reliability. As long as it's clear the AI may not know what it's talking about and following directions it provides verbatim might wipe your system, land your dog in the hospital, and/or bring about the apocalypse, it can be a decent tool for pointing out other avenues of research.

Separately, things like ChatGPT are a big part of why search engines are so useless these days. Algorithmically-generated listicles meant to sell ad space have seriously harmed the Internet as a whole.