topic Re: Sync Redundancy in ClusterXL with MDPS in Firewall and Security Management

Sync Redundancy in ClusterXL with MDPS

andersplarsson — Fri, 02 May 2025 13:30:03 GMT

Hi,

Setting up a new cluster with 19200-appliances running 81.20 take98 with "Management Data Plane Separation (MDPS)". These appliances has two sync-interfaces and seem to be best practice to create a bond if you want to have Sync Redundancy but there is one problem here. One Synch-interface (Synch) is shown i Mplane and the other synch-interface (Synch2) is shown i Dplane.

Why?

Management Data Plane Separation (MDPS) and Sync Redundancy in ClusterXL using bond-interface not supportet?

Regards,

Anders

Re: Sync Redundancy in ClusterXL with MDPS

Chris_Atkinson — Sat, 03 May 2025 06:06:14 GMT

What was your order of operations, is the bond configured / present before enabling mdps?

Re: Sync Redundancy in ClusterXL with MDPS

andersplarsson — Mon, 05 May 2025 07:05:58 GMT

Hi,
The bond was not configured since before no. MDPS was implemented from start. The gateways has not yet been completely set up yet.

So first the firts-time wizard was completed (set of MGMT, Synch, NTP, DNS -ip:s was set), then upgraded to take98 (R81.20) then configuration of MDPS was done.

Regards,

Anders

Re: Sync Redundancy in ClusterXL with MDPS

Chris_Atkinson — Mon, 05 May 2025 10:03:42 GMT

If you follow the configuration procedure per sk138672 and continue to have difficulty please reach out to TAC.

Re: Sync Redundancy in ClusterXL with MDPS

the_rock — Mon, 05 May 2025 12:35:11 GMT

For what is worth, this is what AI says...

Andy

1. M-plane (Management Plane)

Handles configuration, fault, and performance management.
If a Synch interface is shown here (Synch), it's typically used for:
- Synchronization of configuration data
- Managing software updates
- Interfacing with centralized management systems (like EMS/NMS)
- It might be logical or virtual

2. D-plane (Data Plane)

Handles user traffic and real-time data processing.
If Synch2 appears here, it may:
- Be used for time synchronization (e.g., PTP, SyncE) between nodes or base stations
- Be a physical interface connected to a synchronization source (like GNSS, boundary clock, etc.)

Re: Sync Redundancy in ClusterXL with MDPS

Chris_Atkinson — Mon, 05 May 2025 14:02:28 GMT

Please stop posting these unless you've personally validated them as fact.

I for one would hate for the AI to start believing its own terrible insights/answers.

Re: Sync Redundancy in ClusterXL with MDPS

the_rock — Mon, 05 May 2025 14:19:21 GMT

You are 100% right, I find most of those AI answers now are not super useful.

Andy

Re: Sync Redundancy in ClusterXL with MDPS

andersplarsson — Wed, 08 Oct 2025 13:01:13 GMT

I´m in the exact same situation. Did you find a solution for this? Remove Sync from Mplane and create bond in dplane and move it back?

Regards,

Anders

Re: Sync Redundancy in ClusterXL with MDPS

Chris_Atkinson — Wed, 08 Oct 2025 14:59:33 GMT

Have you reached out to TAC as suggested previously?