topic Re: 5200 10g Ethernet SFP Card in Firewall and Security Management

5200 10g Ethernet SFP Card

IWishIKnewMore — Wed, 09 Feb 2022 00:45:21 GMT

Is there compatible 10G Ethernet SFP card for the PB-20/5200 Appliance?

I realize that it can't handle full throughput of 10G, but would eventually like to use it as part of a 10G network and obviously don't want the nearest switch to scale everything down to 1G.

Thanks for the help!

Re: 5200 10g Ethernet SFP Card

Chris_Atkinson — Wed, 09 Feb 2022 01:07:36 GMT

In the 5000 series, only the 5600 and above have a supported 10Gb option unfortunately.

Re: 5200 10g Ethernet SFP Card

IWishIKnewMore — Wed, 09 Feb 2022 01:29:22 GMT

Fair enough. Do you happen to know the part number for the 5600?
When I check the spec doc, it only lists fiber 10G cards far as I can tell (no RJ45 options):
https://www.checkpoint.com/downloads/products/5600-security-gateway-datasheet.pdf

Re: 5200 10g Ethernet SFP Card

HeikoAnkenbrand — Wed, 09 Feb 2022 07:41:01 GMT

Hi @IWishIKnewMore,

If you have only the Firewall Blade enabled and multi queueing is enabled, you should reach 6-7 GBit throughput with 2 SND cores.

Re: 5200 10g Ethernet SFP Card

Chris_Atkinson — Wed, 09 Feb 2022 07:59:49 GMT

For usage with a 5600 it's a "CPAC-4-10F-B"

Correct there isn't an RJ45 10G option available for the 2016 appliance series.

Refer:

sk92755: Compatibility of transceivers for Check Point appliances

Re: 5200 10g Ethernet SFP Card

IWishIKnewMore — Wed, 09 Feb 2022 13:52:21 GMT

Thanks for the link!

Looking at this sheet:
https://www.checkpoint.com/downloads/products/5800-security-gateway-datasheet.pdf

It looks like the 5800 had such a card with the HPP addon?
"Inclusive High Performance Package
Purchase the affordable High
Performance Package (HPP) and get a
base system plus one 2x 10Gb SFP+
interface card, transceivers, redundant
AC or DC power supplies and 16 GB of
memory for high connection capacity."

PDF has a picture of a 10G dual ethernet.

The 5600 pdf also has that photo, but the text says 4 x 1G
https://www.checkpoint.com/downloads/products/5600-security-gateway-datasheet.pdf

There's no standalone part for that either?

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Maybe broader question is there actually a 10G ethernet card for any model?
I see photos and mentions of such a thing existing different places, but no part.

Re: 5200 10g Ethernet SFP Card

Chris_Atkinson — Wed, 09 Feb 2022 14:00:35 GMT

I provided the part number for 5600 and above earlier, here it is again: CPAC-4-10F-B. It's also listed on the 5600 datasheet.

2016 appliances & accessories have reached End of Sale status and stock will be extremely limited if any as a result.

Re: 5200 10g Ethernet SFP Card

IWishIKnewMore — Wed, 09 Feb 2022 13:58:33 GMT

That was more/less my thinking - as long as it wasn't be used an edge device, it would be good enough for a downstream usage.
But without the a way to include a 10G card it's kind of a wash.
At most it would be teaming 2 ports to two 2 nics and get 2GB for a limited device set.
That's much different setup them just running QOS rules and letting the throughput fall where it does for each 10G device.

Re: 5200 10g Ethernet SFP Card

IWishIKnewMore — Wed, 09 Feb 2022 14:07:17 GMT

Thanks for the reply. I saw you listed - CPAC-4-10F-B, but I thought that was fiber?
Or are you suggesting using that with an optical converter?

Re: 5200 10g Ethernet SFP Card

Chris_Atkinson — Wed, 09 Feb 2022 14:10:45 GMT

The only option is fibre for those regardless if it's a 2 or 4 port 10G card.

Apologies your previous reply was unclear with the ethernet reference.

Re: 5200 10g Ethernet SFP Card

IWishIKnewMore — Wed, 09 Feb 2022 15:04:04 GMT

No worries - I appreciate the clarity!!!

One last question - are those SFP modules swappable for ethernet ones?
Or are they soldered in?
Or just the hardware won't recognize it?

Re: 5200 10g Ethernet SFP Card

Chris_Atkinson — Wed, 09 Feb 2022 15:07:25 GMT

There aren't any compatible RJ45 SFPs for the 5600 that provide 10G.

This is a difference/benefit of the new gateways in the Quantum series e.g. 6000